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¿¿Soy el único que se ha leído el contrato de apertura de cuenta, donde dice claramente que el broker es la Contraparte de todas las operaciones?? Es decir, Market Maker.

3.10.5 The best possible result for a Client shall be determined in terms of the total consideration, representing the price of the financial instrument and the costs related to execution, which shall include all expenses incurred by the Client which are directly related to the execution of the order. The Company cannot provide a guarantee that, when executing an order, the Company's price will always be better than one which is or might have been available elsewhere.

4.1 Although the Company will transmit the Client’s orders for execution to third party liquidity providers (matched-principal), contractually the Company is the sole counterparty to the Client’s trades and any execution of orders is done in the Company’s name, therefore the Company is the sole Execution Venue for the execution of the Client’s orders. Execution Venues are the entities with which the orders are placed or to which the Company transmits orders for execution. For the purposes of orders by the Client for the Financial Instrument provided by the Company, the Company acts as matched-principal in all dealings and as the sole execution venue for the Client's orders which may or may not be executed on a regulated exchange or multilateral trading facility.

4.4 The Client acknowledges that the transactions entered in Financial Instruments with the Company are not undertaken on a recognised exchange, rather they are undertaken through the Company’s Trading Platform and, accordingly, they may expose the Client to greater risks than regulated exchange transactions. Therefore, the Company may not execute an order, or it may change the opening or closing price of an order in certain cases including but not limited to instances of a technical failure of the trading platform. The terms and conditions and trading rules are established solely by the counterparty which in this case is the Company. The Client is obliged to close an open position of any given Financial Instruments during the opening hours of the Company’s Trading Platform. The Client also has to close any position with the same counterparty with whom it was originally entered into, thus the Company.

Buenas tardes

La verdad es que todavia no he leido el hilo entero.....

Hay un comentario.... acerca de quien da apalancamiento al apalancado, y a ver si se pasa algun experto por aqui, Mc o wizard o juancolon y me responde.
Si lmax da 1:100 saxobank da 1:100 ¿como puede darwinex dar 1:200?
La respuesta simple es por que tienen mesa, pero como aseguran que no..... pues entonces no se....

El apalancamiento va por instrumento operado, lo de 1:200 es algo anterior, y que quedo registrado en myfbook por que no hay como poner que es diferente por par.

http://blog.darwinex.com/nuevos-niveles ... n/?lang=es

Aunque creo que el sentido que le dio Mc fue otro, entiendo que se referia a de donde sale todo ese dinero que operan si en realidad sus depósitos son menores, supongo que se mueve bajo el mecanismo de "compensación", tal vez una vez al dia, es decir solo cuando hay diferencias entre lo comprado y vendido.

saludos

Mcmanaman escribió:¿¿Soy el único que se ha leído el contrato de apertura de cuenta, donde dice claramente que el broker es la Contraparte de todas las operaciones?? Es decir, Market Maker.

3.10.5 The best possible result for a Client shall be determined in terms of the total consideration, representing the price of the financial instrument and the costs related to execution, which shall include all expenses incurred by the Client which are directly related to the execution of the order. The Company cannot provide a guarantee that, when executing an order, the Company's price will always be better than one which is or might have been available elsewhere.

4.1 Although the Company will transmit the Client’s orders for execution to third party liquidity providers (matched-principal), contractually the Company is the sole counterparty to the Client’s trades and any execution of orders is done in the Company’s name, therefore the Company is the sole Execution Venue for the execution of the Client’s orders. Execution Venues are the entities with which the orders are placed or to which the Company transmits orders for execution. For the purposes of orders by the Client for the Financial Instrument provided by the Company, the Company acts as matched-principal in all dealings and as the sole execution venue for the Client's orders which may or may not be executed on a regulated exchange or multilateral trading facility.

4.4 The Client acknowledges that the transactions entered in Financial Instruments with the Company are not undertaken on a recognised exchange, rather they are undertaken through the Company’s Trading Platform and, accordingly, they may expose the Client to greater risks than regulated exchange transactions. Therefore, the Company may not execute an order, or it may change the opening or closing price of an order in certain cases including but not limited to instances of a technical failure of the trading platform. The terms and conditions and trading rules are established solely by the counterparty which in this case is the Company. The Client is obliged to close an open position of any given Financial Instruments during the opening hours of the Company’s Trading Platform. The Client also has to close any position with the same counterparty with whom it was originally entered into, thus the Company.

Esta claro que darwinex pasa las ordenes al mercado y negocia a nombre del cliente, el cliente no negocia directamente en el mercado, de ahí el uso del termino.

Si Luis, eso explica una de las frases, pero todo lo demás te dice claramente que es la contraparte de las operaciones y que las órdenes pueden no ir a ningún mercado.

A ver Mcmanaman, el funcionamiento de esto es sencillo: imagina que eres cliente de Darwinex y quieres comprar un lote de EURUSD. Los pasos que se siguen en la transacción son los siguientes:

1. Cliente compra 1 lote de EURUSD
2. Darwinex vende 1 lote de EURUSD al Cliente
3. Darwinex simultáneamente compra 1 lote de EURUSD en LMAX (proveedor de liquidez de Darwinex)

Lo que te viene a decir esa parte del contrato de forma resumida es que Darwinex agrega las órdenes de los clientes y las pasa a mercado, siendo Darwinex el que ejecuta las transacciones de los clientes en el mercado. No le veo problema a lo que señalas, la verdad.

Saludos,
FXWizard

Hola, veo que el tema a derivado de "pagan pocas comisiones a los traders" a "podría ser un broker MM encubierto".

Buen giro de timón, suerte con la búsqueda de pruebas.

Saludos

Hay varios webinars en fxstreet y en el canal de darwinex donde explican las licencias y dan el numero,
Una busqueda en la fca se ven los permisos donde se muestra segun su tipo, que ellos lanzan todas las ordenes al mercado.
De momento no tengo el enlace, ahora ando ocupado. pero fácil los encuentran.

saludos